now two american vets, former marine and msnbc contributor goldie taylor and retired army captain wes moore. goldie, let me start with you and i want your reaction to what you heard hayden say. what's your reaction to that? >> i think he is right. we have to be ready to move at a moment's notice and i don't believe the standards ought to be relaxed. when i came out of boot camp, just after i came out of boot camp they instituted 54 weeks of -- 54 hours of continuous mental and physical challenge. to survive that you have to be in excellent physical shape. but in order to qualify for front-line infantry roles, that calls for something else. and i just don't believe there ought to be a difference in the standard. if a woman can meet those standards she ought to be able to serve, be recognized and paid for it. >> simple as that. if she can meet the standards she's good to go. >> i agree. what the policy is asking for is not set asides or any type of quotas. it is simply saying we should open and allow opportunities for women who choose to go in to this that they can have the opportunities to d